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Welcome to the Cut the Tide Podcast. Hi, I'm your host, Thomas Helfrick. I'm on a mission to help you cut the tie to whatever's holding you back from your success. You got to own your own success. You got to define it. You got to go after it. And then you're going to find that there's things that are in your way or holding you back. And that's we're here to talk about the things that successful people like. Our guest, Dr. Ron Stotz. Hello. Hi, Dr.

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Ron. Thanks for having me on the show.

SPEAKER_03: 0:22

Oh, listen, the pleasure is mine. Take a moment. Introduce yourself, you know, who you are, what it is you do.

SPEAKER_01: 0:28

Well, as I said, I'm Dr. Ron Stotz, and I'm with Ron Stotz International. And I what I do is I help executives evolve into conscious leaders who lead with more clarity and compassion and authentic power. And that, of course, elevates their performance and profits and purpose. And so it works for everybody.

SPEAKER_03: 0:49

So back up a bit. Well, before you start, today, how do you define success?

SPEAKER_01: 0:57

Well, success is is really deep inner knowing that you're in the right place, doing the right thing, and contributing to the world in the way that you value. And uh yeah, I think that is true success. You're not trying to impress, you're not trying to figure out your you recognize that your path is the path of becoming and the path of serving and the path of you know, that's where your fulfillment will come from.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29

It it's funny you don't realize that till later. Um I don't think sometimes a a function of money. I would do this because I certainly don't have money to retire. And uh I'm 49. Today's my last day to be 49. So tomorrow I turn 50. And I find myself finding more acts of service more enjoyable. It's like I think in my I say my last third, maybe it's my last fourth. I'm not sure how you do the math on that exactly. In the next 25 or 30 years, I'm gonna find more opportunities. And that's funny because that that's a new definition of success for me, which is which is funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:06

It's starting now, doing the things that you need to do now and not waiting until the future. So that that's the pretty yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14

Well, tell your tell your you know, start go back as far as you like, but uh tell me about your story a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20

Um, well, I you know, it basically started I would say, you know, I was kind of the normal all-American kid. Uh when I got into college, I was a rowing champion, and that was kind of a big moment for me. And the Vietnam War was going on, and I wasn't a very good student, so I decided to uh join the Marine Corps, kind of following my dad's footsteps of World War II. And uh yeah, I I ex you know, I was in great shape, so I was doing well. But one morning I was laying down in front at the rifle range, and they uh were I was waiting for the target to come up, and instead of a bullseye, a human silhouette came up came up. And my little 19-year-old mind was uh smart enough to figure out that this wasn't another sporting aga uh event, that this was uh I was training to kill human beings and I was becoming very good at it. And so that was the moment that I really changed my life. Uh you know, I recognized that I had been following other people's rules and what life was about and who I should be. And so I really let that go. And I did get out of the Marine Corps uh in about a year due to a medical discharge, and uh and it I was a mess, you know. I'd so I would say probably at least two dozen of my close friends had been killed over in Vietnam, and uh I'd lost custody of my sons and gotten divorced, and so I, you know, I was suicidal, I was BTSD, chemical imbalance, I I had it all going on, and uh all of a sudden that you know I did not have life in control. And so I hiked into the woods and decided whether I should commit suicide or not, and decided yes, I should. That was a better thing for me to do. And as I was thrusting a big hunting knife uh into my towards my heart, I literally had an experience that I still don't quite fully understand. I just all of a sudden dissolved in this white ball of light and just was immersed in this perfection and understanding of the oneness of the universe and all sorts of things that when 1920 some year old Jock had no concept of. And uh but it was because of that that that became my foundation. I did trust and I moved forward, and that began my journey of looking more deeply within and healing and growing, and that led to getting pieces of paper that made me a doctor in that area of personal development, and that led me to working with others that uh, you know, that really became the joy of my life, you know. And I think in terms of where I am today, I really recognize that I'm I you know I've got grandkids and even great grandkids now, and I really wanted to create a more conscious and caring world for them. And so it was really the opportunity was there, and you know, I have certain skills and abilities to guide people into higher levels of consciousness and leadership that really do increase their productivity and profits in in amazing ways, sometimes increasing millions and billions of dollars and over a couple of years, so it's it's significant. But I also saw that those conscious leaders that I was helping uh really had a huge influence, not only in their organization, but on a societal level. And it's what it was a lasting impact that they were having. So that became my area of specialty, and that was probably 15 plus years ago. And uh I've been having a great time ever since. I don't think I'd ever find a time where I wouldn't want to be doing what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03: 6:15

You're uh a beep. Wait, did you actually stab yourself in the heart or it was just right before you got in there?

SPEAKER_01: 6:21

Uh, you know, I I f fully f came right towards it, and somewhere before is when it happened, and I when I when I came back, my the knife was, you know, probably twenty some feet or yards away. And uh yeah, I couldn't tell you what happened because I was a very big, very strong, very determined guy back then. And so somehow, uh somehow that all of that thrust got diverted and uh shifted into that experience.

SPEAKER_03: 6:53

That's incredible. Uh and that what a what a base and you're 20-some years old, so what a basis for like uh rapid acceleration of maturity.

SPEAKER_01: 7:02

Very much so. Very much. Yeah, exactly. And then you know, having completely let go and recognizing that everything that I was holding on to wasn't working, that letting go process really gave me uh the opportunity to recreate myself and become the person that I was intended to be.

SPEAKER_03: 7:26

Yeah, I mean you mentioned uh you know just trouble PTSD you you lost, you know, with your sons. Did you get a chance to reconnect this part of this journey?

SPEAKER_01: 7:37

Uh not not nearly as fully as I would have liked. We had a um twenty-five years of close connection, but then their mother uh who never forgave me, you know, decided that uh she wasn't comfortable with that, and so they sided with her. And so yeah, I'd love to say it differently, but uh fortunately 25 wonderful years with them, and so that was good.

SPEAKER_03: 8:02

Yeah, it was you know it's it's hard to hear that uh you know, you you're in such a different place, different person. Uh that lack of forgiveness is is not on you. Let's say it that way. It's a gift it's a la it's a gift they have to give you. Uh but it sounds like there's resentment and uh indignation versus so that uh you know what Ida uh in any given life, right? Um you're 18 again. And what I mean by that is, you know, I went to a high school reunion, 30, the 30 year one not too long ago. And I was like, wow, I mean, I probably have a good 30 years ahead of me of cognitive ability. I mean, right. And so at any point in your life, you know, you might be 60 or 70, whatever it is, you might be like, I got probably 10 solid years. Like, all right, you're 10 years old again. What do you want? Fuck you. It's like, yeah, who knows where life will take you. That but uh let's get to work just go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 8:54

Oh, I was just gonna say, I remember at 60 feeling old and like some, you know, and then I thought, well, I probably have about 25 years left. And then I look back, well, how old was I 25 years earlier? And I was like, you know, what 35? And that was that was a lifetime before. So I I realized, oh, I've got a long journey in front of me. I've kind of to step up and play the game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 9:18

It is, and it's uh it I think that's a big piece, but specifically if you're looking at, you know, you're uh you're running a business or growing a business, you know, just to extrapolate a very heavy thing which you went through to just your day-to-day your build it it seems like it's taking forever. It's like and you feel like, oh, I'm never gonna get there. And it's just it's just a slow, sometimes grudge through it. So talk about your work a little bit though. Uh you know, dive into you know, so you knew what you need to do. Take me through the journey of kind of like discovering that you know, you know, maybe start with like the the core problem you solve for a business or for a leadership. And and tell me like the moment you knew it.

SPEAKER_01: 9:58

Yeah, I think it, you know, I I'd had a you know, I've got a PhD in psychology, and so I then were had a general practice, but I'd also had people coming to me who were, you know, they were owner of an NFL team. I'd helped facilitate AT ⁇ T through to their divestiture into a, you know, for-profit companies, and I'd had a couple people, you know, one had national hotel chains. And so I'd worked with significant leaders, but I'd never really thought of them as being any different than anybody else. But with that awareness that I really wanted to make a significant impact in the world by and that working with leaders would allow me to do that, uh yeah, what I soon realized is that they were all coming to me with the same, you know, um complaining about all those outer problems and talking about all the inner and outer solutions that they were coming up with and their frustrations that those weren't working any longer, and then kind of run into this, you know, glass ceiling that we all talk about. And uh there was the common theme of, yeah, they were incredibly bright folks, and they were really had had great levels of success, but they had all gotten to a place where what they had done before wasn't working any longer. And in that moment, they felt stuck, they felt frightened, they felt inadequate, and and uh and it was because they didn't have any sense of how to look within themselves. You know, they were pretty much across the board as as children, they were very smart and they got recognized and loved and accepted, you know, they got into the right schools, they got the right jobs, all of them because of that left-brain logical ability of theirs to think and problem solve in those ways. But they hadn't accessed deeper levels of self-awareness, they hadn't accessed emotional intelligence, they hadn't accessed the whole, you know, being a neurologist and to some degree I recognize that you that left brain, as useful as it is, is really inadequate without the bigger picture, spontaneity, emotional awareness uh of the right brain. And so the work begins with that, healing their path so that they really do develop integrated whole brain thinking, which elevates their ability to lead and and success in in tremendous ways. But even as their mind gets quieter and quieter, they become more self-aware, that subconscious uh sabotaging that you know that goes on diminishes and they become more present and more aware. And in that awareness, their mind gets quieter, and the quieter the mind, the forebrain takes over as the conscious CEO of their life as it's meant to be. All of a sudden the amygdala, the emotional centers are diminished in terms of you're not being reactive, you're not overreacting in an emotional way to whatever's going on. It's not all this subconscious uh clutter from childhood that is running your life or creating how you how you who you are and how you are. You know, you become that more confident, authentic adult person who knows and feels good about who they are and is more emotionally aware, and that self-awareness gets mirrored, you know, your relationship with yourself gets mirrored in your relationship with others. And so all of a sudden you're a better leader. You're bringing out the best in others. You you you create teams that are more collaborative and cooperative, and so they're more productive and profitable. And so all of a sudden life seems to work. And of course, in your family life, you see this uh, you know, mirrored uh in in similar ways. All of a sudden you're closer with your kids, your better relationship with your spouse, and uh, you know, so quality of life shifts dramatically as they learn to let go of just being what they thought they needed to be to be successful, that driven leader, to becoming that more whole, complete, authentic person who leads really with ease compared to the effort that they used to have. They lead from that much bigger perspective and they're much more present. And so the efforting that the burnout, all the exhaustion that you know they thought was necessary, they recognize it's not needed at all. And as they relax, they also I watch them can regularly coming up with amazing ideas that not only move their life but move their organization forward in in hugely successful ways.

SPEAKER_03: 14:47

And uh yeah, I mean I'm what's the uh what's the trigger that brings someone to you? Like what's going on in their lives when they're like, I need to talk to this guy.

SPEAKER_01: 14:58

Well, usually they're feeling stuck, usually they're feeling frustrated. You know, sometimes they want more money, sometimes they you know, but it's usually an outside thing. They're feeling they get to a place of fear, to be honest with you. A place of things aren't working. They're doubling down on what they've done before and um, but it's not working any longer. And so they're they're frustrated and upset because they don't know they don't they lose a sense of direction in their life. Their relationships are shifting in unsupportive ways. They're you know, they're they're losing people, you know, in in terms of their organizations that they really need and trust. And and it's just that disconnection within themselves is being reflected in their disconnection between others, and others are responding to that, you know, less comfortable place. You know, they're not they're not not having fun being, you know, I like I remember when I was helping AT ⁇ T, you know, that was, you know, they were definitely a top-down, very controlling leadership style. And uh and that's common for most people. And that that style of leadership comes out of a place of fear, place of inadequacy. So you're using what you know you know and doing the best you can with it, but it it breaks not only breaks you down, but it breaks others down too. So it's it's a moment they come to me in that moment where they know they need more, but they don't know what it is, and they don't know how to access it. And that's the that's the journey that I guide them on, is becoming you know, becoming whole, opening up their heart, which opens up their mind, opening up their mind to looking for opportunities rather than you know, the challenges that they seem to think life is so filled with otherwise.

SPEAKER_03: 16:52

I'm giggling I bet there's a bunch of your clients who work with you after a while, they're like, if I admit you, I wouldn't be divorced. I bet that statement gets made occasionally. But I'd I'd have to argue maybe you needed to get there to get here, but you know, habits form.

SPEAKER_01: 17:08

It's all perfect, it really is. Yeah. I mean, when when people come to me, you know, they're talking about this challenge and that challenge. This emotional they give their litany of why they're coming. And it's really just indicators that they're ready to evolve and become the person that they're truly meant to be and capable of becoming, leading away with it.

SPEAKER_03: 17:30

Whatever that version is next, right? Uh, how much time you know you know, I I can imagine a bunch of uh EDHD type A's coming to you going, hey, can we get this done in a week? But what's the reality? What's this? It's a life. I it's I'm I'm guessing it's like golf. You you learn it and you never master it. You get better at it.

SPEAKER_01: 17:50

Being a golfer, I'd definitely own on that one. But you know, it really, you know, time people go to therapy and all that stuff for m years, and and I don't see it working. I really don't. Uh the work that I do really in about two months, you've handled the the deep down more difficult uh challenges that you know you get to heal the past and really in that really create a foundation, an empowered foundation for your future. Um and even most people, well, they're they're trying to be nice about it, but usually they're they're can they're they're frightened, to be honest. It's like, I don't want to look at that. And but within within an hour or two, that's shifted into they're they recognize they're on this amazing adventure of self-discovery and understanding what's holding them back and how to move forward. They gain confidence and that they can literally neurologically rewire their brain and access an entirely new mindset and way of viewing and experiencing life. And so it becomes it becomes their hero's journey. That, you know, my one of my mentors was Joseph Campbell. And, you know, that hero's journey, you know, the initial part of it is you've got to enter the the heart. You've got to enter the cave that you're feared to enter to discover the treasure that you seek. And that that that cave is within your gut with all that emotional stuff and things that you didn't know how to handle as a child. You open that door, you know, you clean that up, and all of a sudden you discover who you truly are. And you know, you you can you know Star Wars was based on that whole hero's journey.

SPEAKER_03: 19:38

So you're that's the uh Gene trials right there you just described, right? You see yourself. Um everyone's gotta go see you now. That's that's all that's all you have to do. And uh you you've already discussed one metaphoric tie to Jeddah, which is getting over living. So you decided good call. You wouldn't be sending her today if you had stabbed yourself in Mark. Um so thanks for not killing yourself. Of us appreciate that. But what's what what are you what are you resisting today?

SPEAKER_01: 20:05

What am I resisting today? Oh, that's a good question. Um you know, I I I had a moment a couple months ago. I was sitting with my wife in the living room um and uh just chatting, and I've really for the first time ever, uh the thought of maybe it's time to retire came up. And and uh I'd literally never even thought about it. I'm 78 and the thought never entered my mind before. You know, of course, all my golf buddies are talking about it all the time, so not unaware of it. But uh, you know, it was in that moment that I recognized that, yeah, you know, I can do that. I, you know, financially I can, mentally I could. I have an incredible relationship with this woman, and we've been together 35, 36 years now, and uh, you know, my life is is full. And so I could do that. But I watched over the next couple of days and was like, yeah, but I I'd still like to be coaching. So I'd like to work with a few people. And now it's gotten, you know, about a month later I'm back into creating podcasts, a whole new, entirely new level of impact that I'm looking to make in the world. So that's who I am. That's that's that's you know, I I have an incredible life. I you know, I have my boating, I have my golf, and my wife and I have this amazing relationship, and I couldn't couldn't ask for more. I traveled the world. And but uh I tell you to have the privilege of sitting with these people as they go on this journey and and guiding them through this this journey and to uh you know the just got an email yesterday from a guy who's got five. Well, I used to say he had five nine-figure businesses, but now they're multi-billion dollar, you know, five years later. I mean, quite literally, he's developed and grown that much. But you know, he calls calls me his Yoda. It's it's fun being Yoda.

SPEAKER_03: 22:17

Maybe we could uh book or post you had to get your Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:22

I just uh it it's just fun, it's a privilege to watch these people grow and develop, and then as they develop, it radiates and and waves out into their organizations, into their life, into their family. And yeah, it's just I can't imagine a more rewarding experience.

SPEAKER_03: 22:45

You're um you know, resisting retirement as a neurologist or a neuroscientist. I would I would you know the data if you see which you know, stop moving, it's over. Yeah. Uh I told I told my friends, listen, you know, it's it's fine to like plants and gardening. When you start fully committing 51% of your thinking to bird watching, it's over. Like you might go for six months and it's you might as well just go and pick out the obituary section. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 23:13

It just doesn't make sense. I mean, uh, it really doesn't. I mean, I'm in the middle of, you know, we're gonna take a trip to Pork Pork, yeah, I can't even say the word, Portugal. And so I'm learning Porcup Portuguese. And you know, it it's it's just the mind, you know, if you're breathing and being curious and present, there's always a next, and life is an adventure, and that adventure is the most rewarding, you know. When you look at the chance of us being in this body on this planet at this time, doing what we're doing is really, you know, fortunate to have that opportunity. And so take full advantage of it, discover who you are, and uh yeah, create a create a life that's absolutely fulfilling and and don't stop living it until until you're gone.

SPEAKER_03: 24:04

Until you're not? The uh, you know, the uh it's almost it's a criminal's wrong word, but like they have like I'm one who's decided if I'm 49 tomorrow I'm 50. But I already decided three years ago. I was like, I'm not gonna retire ever. I I just did I just want to be doing something. I try to sit on a beach for now and I can't. So if that's already my thing, like it's I love golf, right? And I just don't think I want to play it every day. Like I thought I would, but like, yeah, it's uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 24:29

No, I grew up in a couple times a week. That's good.

SPEAKER_03: 24:32

It's good, right? Just social fun, get you out, but you you know, close to breaking a club, you realize what life's all about, that it means nothing and you hate everything. And it's actually for a lot of people. Um but the point being is that you know, you you have this knowledge in the space, why not? Why not pick the with the people you want to um like like just just conscious of time? Get give the uh the person who made it to this point in the show something that they weren't gonna get, they didn't make it, they didn't they didn't get here. You know, what's your top three? What's the thing that leaders or you know what's what's the three things that you know that every leader needs to do that they're not doing, or some version of that?

SPEAKER_01: 25:09

Well first of all, I congratulate them on the success that they've had, and I do mean that. Uh no no irony there. Uh it's just that we're the one reality that we can count on in life is change. And it's a matter of the only way we can keep up with that change in a safe, supportive, healthy way is to breathe and be present. And that allows us to really embrace each moment. And as you breathe and are curious and present with each moment, you're in a state of consciousness that allows you to see what your best next step is at any given moment. So any challenge, any anything coming into your life, you begin to recognize as a huge opportunity. And so you're looking for that opportunity, you're looking for how to handle it in the most supportive way for yourself and others. You know, most people they're I when they first come in and start working with me, I mean, they're everything is a challenge, everything is difficult, everything's, you know, efforting and forcing, and and yeah, that shifts. And all of a sudden, in that shift, they begin to live more fully. So that that's certainly one of them. And, you know, so often that left logical brain doesn't allow us to really get in touch with and embrace our feelings. And I'm boy, I remember you know, in my 30s thinking, you know, if you're that's a weakness of your, you know, you're feeling too much of that type of thing. And then I realized, no, that's where strength is. Vulnerability is where some of your greatest strengths are going to reside. And so you begin to open up to yourself, to others, and that all of a sudden creates, you know, results that, you know, in a business sense that that are incredible and and supportive for not only yourself and the organization and others, but for the world. So yeah, it's so many people are so afraid. And, you know, as you move from that place of living from fear to living from self-acceptance and love, your life changes dramatically. You know, if you if you haven't made that shift, and I mean in a very deep way, not not a I'm gonna convince myself that I love myself. You know, if you've done the work, if you do that inner work, your life finds purpose. You all of a sudden recognize your highest intention, you recognize your greatest aspiration, which means not only something that's comfortable that you want to work towards, but something that you need to work, you know, continue to grow towards and breathe into and become. You know, so yeah, it's it's fun to know what your life's about and fun to know and be confident in who you are and you know, and contribute to the world in a way that makes sense and feels great.

SPEAKER_03: 28:10

Um I hear a lot of overlay of I take religion out of it, but faith into some of the conversations you're saying. So you hear I hear some of the same kind of ideas and in when you when you discuss faith and just like like I said, uh denomination independent. Uh but has faith been part of your journey into this?

SPEAKER_01: 28:30

Well, certainly in the beginning. Well, no, I would have to say all the way through, but it's not faith, and that's the great thing. In that moment that I had when I was committing suicide, uh, faith went out the window. I didn't have to have faith. I had a direct experience. I had a direct experience of the oneness of the universe and the perfection of that universe. And so that's that's really supported me throughout my life, you know, and and yeah, I did learn to to quiet my mind. I did learn to meditate, I did learn to reconnect with that level of awareness, that level of consciousness. And but it's not a matter of faith, it's a matter of understanding. And so, okay, well, how does the mind work? And as you understand that, you know, my highest level leaders, I watch them recognize what I call big mind, that, oh, if I quiet my mind, I can literally focus on a challenge or an opportunity that I have. And when I'm doing it from that place, I create an alpha bridge that accesses the best of my levels of thinking from all the different frequencies, not just beta, delta, or theta, or you know, particular frequency that I might be able to access in that moment. But all the frequencies are going to be opened up and give me the best solution that I could possibly reach for. And so that level of thinking allows you to be present and and curious and conscious and move through the world in a very trusting, supportive, you know, and and impactful way. You know, so there's always another level. There's always another level. And so again, super rich.

SPEAKER_03: 30:12

There's always another door to go behind.

SPEAKER_01: 30:13

There's another way. Well, it's far different than that, but yes. Yeah. You know, the one thing I've had uh, you know, I worked with a lot of millionaire and billionaires, literally. And the one consistent thing that they always end up saying at some point is, well, that wasn't it. You know, that money that they thought would get them the love and the safety and the comfort and the everything they thought they needed was not it.

SPEAKER_03: 30:42

In fact, the uh but your ability to make a bunch of money is a really good thing for helping others. So it's like don't quit doing that, and maybe you kind of let together. Um I will tell I've had a small glimpse, uh, is you know, every year I try to cut a tie. Um, you know, so so tomorrow, no more starbursts.

SPEAKER_02: 30:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 31:01

Might be an addition. I'm gonna try to reduce it's gonna stop drinking a few years ago. Like this year's was adult ADHD. So my little glimpse into that was uh when the frontal you know lobe and's working with a little amphetamines in you. Man, my clarity and focus is incredible. And I'm so I don't think jealous is the right word, but envious probably of the people who who can do it, but then I see them, they have no creativity. So the ones I'm really jealous of are the ones who have both of logic and working together in one. So we're describing the first whole brain thinking is all about.

SPEAKER_01: 31:34

Yeah, I remember when I, you know, when I was back in my early 20s, going through all that I was going through, uh I was playing racquetball with a doctor at the gym that I a friend of mine's dad owned, so that's the only reason I could afford to be in there. But uh but you know, he he he recommended I go see a psychologist or psychiatrist at the time. I didn't have any money or anything, so but I thought, well, one time I'll go in. And he just simpl simply he's the one that diagnosed my chemical imbalance. And yeah, it's it was like I started taking several their nutrients. I mean, they were minerals and vitamins, not anything else. And uh but it was like having a shell lifted off. And that's really what doing this work does. It just lifts that that limitation off. And you you know, I I assume I lost topic there, but I was I was very much a poet. I always had a little booklet in my back pocket and I wrote all the time back then. And I remember thinking, oh geez, if I if I do this, I'm gonna lose all that creativity. And you know, I was kind of known in LA as doing poetry readings and stuff all around. And I didn't want to give that up. But I boy, I can only share with everybody that the creativity just goes through the roof.

SPEAKER_03: 32:56

I had, you know, as you know, I you know, 40, whatever, eight, nine, starting this, you know, it's realizing what kind of glass cage you've been in, not realizing it's crystal clear I got a class cage because you don't realize what box you're in until you're out of it. And you're like, oh wow, there it is. Um, getting, you know, kids involved. My kid's son and like who he is on a different path now that I wish I would have had, I guess. I I mean, maybe differently, because I was always told that same thing. Oh, you don't want to restrict your creativity and that's just how you are. And I'm like, maybe. But now on the other side of it, my creativity is focused on things that are actually of more value or higher purpose. And uh it's like, you know, I don't feel cheated. I won't say that. I will say it's happened before me, so it happens for my son at the right time and other people. But um anyway, I I could go on with that. But I love what you're doing here with the whole brain. I'm I'm I'm definitely curious. And as a formal or professional racquetball player, I love to hear that you played racquall. So I will we'll take that one offline and end our segment with racquetball's a dime sport. What are we gonna do about it?

SPEAKER_00: 33:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 33:53

Uh at this point, Ron, do you want anyone to contact you? Are you gonna fully retire? Are you gonna commit to what you sit on that couch or not?

SPEAKER_01: 34:00

No, you know, I I I'm fully committed to uh having a huge impact of the world and and helping folks and and guiding them on these journeys. I mean, I remember my neighbors when I was growing up, uh, was in Seattle, and uh the two older sons uh used to take people into Canada and Alaska for fishing trips and hunting trips, that kind of thing. And and I really do feel that that's all I am, is a I'm a guide. And I guide people on this journey deeply within themselves and into higher levels of awareness and consciousness that allow them to live fully and be be successful and create the life that they're really worthy of. So yeah, that's uh I'm gonna say this is what happened, guys.

SPEAKER_03: 34:44

Really, this is my behind-the-scenes storytelling backdrop series. Is it he sit on the couch one day having a great moment with his partner for 35 years? And she he's I'm gonna retire. And she's like, Oh, oh no, no, and that's what she thought. She's like, he's not gonna be moving around this house like Fred next door. And what she didn't say, she's smart though, so she didn't say anything. And the next two weeks, she started you, Fred, our neighbor, he retired. Why don't you talk to him about it? And he she started chipping away at you without realizing it. She's like, Yeah, no, no, I have not. We're not having you interrupting my day.

SPEAKER_01: 35:17

No, no, she and the last thing she was worried about is that.

SPEAKER_03: 35:22

I'm not projecting. All right, Ron, thank you. Uh who and uh who should get hold of you and how do you want them to do that?

SPEAKER_01: 35:30

Well, anybody that's ready to evolve, anybody who recognizes that they've done well, but they're ready to do much more, and and really, you know, not only for for themselves, but for the world, for their family. And yeah, just go to my website at ronstots.com, r-o-n-st-o-t-ts.com. And uh there's all sorts of information there. There's stuff you can download so you can begin that inner journey on your own. There's yeah, just just everything you'd need is is there.

SPEAKER_03: 36:00

So enjoy. All right. Well, thank you so much for being my guest today. I appreciate it and enjoy the conversation.

SPEAKER_02: 36:07

Yeah, no, I enjoyed it. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03: 36:09

Anyone still on with us? Thank you for getting here. Uh, this is the first time uh listening to Cut the Tie. I hope it's the first of many. I always tell people to leave a five star review, but the truly, the metrics say just follow it and listen to a show once in a while. And if you feel saucy, tell a friend. Okay. Uh everyone have a great day. Thank you so much for listening.

SPEAKER_01: 36:27

Very well. Thanks.