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“Success Is Loving God and Loving People” – Dan Rosenblatt on Purpose Over Performance

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Cut The Tie Podcast with Dan Rosenblatt

What happens when performance stops working and success still feels hollow?

In this episode of Cut The Tie, Thomas Helfrich sits down with Dan Rosenblatt, founder of Seventy Two Ministries, commercial insurance business owner, and coach to business leaders who feel deeply out of alignment. Dan’s story cuts straight to the heart of what many high performing men experience but rarely say out loud. You can win in business and still lose peace, family, and purpose.

Dan shares how faith became the foundation that reordered every other area of his life. Not as an escape from responsibility, but as the framework that allowed him to lead with clarity, conviction, and rest. This is a conversation about cutting the tie to performance driven identity and redefining success through alignment, legacy, and eternity.

About Dan Rosenblatt:
Dan Rosenblatt is the founder of Seventy Two Ministries, a faith based coaching and discipleship platform focused on leadership, alignment, and purpose. He is also the owner of a commercial insurance franchise and has over eighteen years of experience in sales, business ownership, and leadership development. Dan has coached hundreds of sales professionals and business owners and serves leaders who want to build thriving businesses without sacrificing faith, family, or integrity.

In this episode, Thomas and Dan discuss:

  • Why faith is usually the last tie people cut
    Dan explains how most leaders only turn to faith after finances, health, or relationships collapse.
  • Redefining success beyond performance
    Why success rooted only in output eventually leads to burnout and emptiness.
  • What alignment actually means
    How misalignment shows up in marriage, leadership, and business long before people admit it.
  • Building business without abandoning faith
    Why faith does not replace responsibility, discipline, or hard work.
  • Leading from rest instead of exhaustion
    How leaders can stop running on empty and start leading with clarity.
  • Purpose measured in eternity
    Dan challenges the idea that success should only be measured in revenue or status.
  • Why most high performers feel stuck
    The hidden cost of being successful in one area while neglecting others.

Key Takeaways:

  • Performance is a poor foundation
    It delivers results but not peace.
  • Alignment precedes scale
    Growth without alignment magnifies problems.
  • Faith brings clarity, not passivity
    It strengthens leadership rather than softening it.
  • Legacy outlives metrics
    What you build matters less than who you become.
  • You do not need to fix everything at once
    Progress starts by cutting one tie at a time.

Connect with Dan Rosenblatt:

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-rosenblatt1/

🌐 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SeventyTwoMinistries

Connect with Thomas Helfrich:
🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/thelfrich
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thelfrich/
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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the Cut the Tie Podcast. Hello. I'm your host, Thomas Hilfric. I'm already laughing. It's gonna be it's gonna be a deep this show. This show is gonna have an emotional ride today. With uh, you know, brought you today. Dan Rosenblatt's gonna join us. Uh if you've you've heard me before, I changed my intro just slightly there because it's a new world. And I want you those still, though, to get out there. Cut a tie to whatever it is holding you back from success. And now you have to own your own success. You have to define it. If you don't, you're chasing someone else's dream, and you're gonna be a bit hollow when you get there. So we're gonna we're talking with Dan. Dan, uh, thanks for coming today. Just take a moment, introduce yourself, where you're from, and what it is you do.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks, brother. I appreciate the opportunity to be here. And my name is Dan Rosenblatt with 72 Ministries. I own a commercial insurance franchise as well. I've been doing that for 10 years, uh helping small business owners out with life insurance, business insurance, disability insurance, that kind of thing. But recently launched 72 Ministries from a coaching perspective and then from a ministry perspective. So, our ministry perspective, we have a YouTube channel, 72 Ministries, just go look it up. 72 Ministries, just like this, to equip and empower God's people to make wholehearted disciples. It's free YouTube content around leadership, around discipleship, around apologetics, the defense of the faith, how to share your faith, leadership, and more. And then the coaching arm, we have coached, I've coached over the years, over 400 sales professionals and then 350 business owners that I've advised in the last 18 years. I coach people from the coaching arm of 72 Ministries, now from a professional standpoint for hire to lead with purpose and on purpose from a place of rest to leave a legacy and a legacy that means something, right?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I mean, it's it's it's uh, you know, we were just talking a little off camera beforehand that, you know, people cut the tie. There's four general areas you do it in, which is relationships, finances, health, and uh, and faith. And and faith is uh without a doubt the most ignored one. It's the last to go because it's usually when you're you've already blown up the other three. Uh and you're like, what's left? I heard about this this faith thing. I'm not gonna say, you know, uh we were kidding with her. I'm not gonna go southern preacher, send me your dollar. You need that dollar that here's a we're not talking prosperity gospel here, brother.

SPEAKER_00:

So we're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01:

We're not gonna talk of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. No. Focus on none of them.

SPEAKER_00:

Um we'll focus on the the the un unknown book of time.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I always I make the joke, by the way. Whenever I say something, it does mean something. I'm pretty it's in the Bible, it's toward the back.

SPEAKER_00:

You probably have to don't add to it, brother. There's a warning.

SPEAKER_01:

Um Anyway, so so part on track.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, the faith is such a huge component, and that's my story. Like you're you're saying there, where I was led to my knees. I didn't grow up in a Christian home. Um, but I think that gives me a lot of depth, and we'll talk about that maybe in in a little while. But whether it's scaling a business, refining their sales process, inspiring team, balancing family and business ownership, that's what we do at 72 Ministries when we're coaching somebody. And that faith component is the foundation of everything else. If we don't have that right, we're we're unstable.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, absolutely. And you know, a couple of my people I coach, you know, they they do financial planning, these most, you know, things around finances. Uh, and I think you said there's like in the in the Bible itself, there's like over 1,500 references to money and that it's not always negative, it's what you do with it and how you leverage your resources. And and they take a very, or a couple couple of the people, they take a very uh client's mind, they they take a Christ-first approach or a faith-based approach, meaning what's your purpose, what legacy do you want to leave for your family, you're who who you're known for, and how do you leverage your resources to do that? Now, we're not gonna get into that maybe as much today, uh, but I think that's something people should realize and be comfortable with that that's an okay place, I think, to come from, to say, I'm trying to do something with what I've built. And in often case, this is where I'd love to get your first take on this, is often probably the people you coach, their first initial run at that was not faith. It was build, build, build more, more, more, and then they have a moment. Uh before we kind of get in the weeds with you a little bit, you said 70 the number 72 ministries.com, or uh is it at 72 Ministries for YouTube?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I don't know. I'm not a technologically savvy dude, but if you just go to the search bar and type the number 72 Ministries, just like it is on the sweatshirt here, you will find us and it will be the same exact logo.

SPEAKER_01:

So if you're if you're listening, look for the good looking guy with glasses. Okay. That's a good nice smile. Um, the the point is, uh, you know, maybe discuss just in the context of uh for you initially, uh your journey. And because I want you to I want you to talk about that. Uh, you know, but first define success. What is success to you today?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so great question. For me, success is loving God and loving people, it's using the gifts that he's given us. So for me specifically, it's leadership, teaching, and knowledge to help build his kingdom and living to the best of our ability according to his word. So that that's what I would define as success. My favorite scripture is for what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? And that's Matthew 26, or Matthew 16, 26, excuse me. And so that that really sums it up. We can't give anything in exchange for our soul. Our our success should be measured in eternity, beginning with that end in mind, as Stephen Covey says, begin with the end in mind, knowing that if we look out 50 years from now, that might seem like a long time, but when we pass away, there's an eternity afterward. And so, what is success with eternity in mind?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, in in theory, right? You have 50 summers left, right? You do that, like you get 50 more runs. Hopefully, hopefully.

SPEAKER_00:

We don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh in in reality, though, since if you think of it, you know, think of nerdy time, the eternity is between now and then for you in the current state. Now, souls, whatever else, the meanings of it. I don't think I'm gonna see my dad with you know, whatever when he's gone, I'm gone. I don't I I don't know about that. I think it's gonna be more of a feel and there's the energy in that. So anyway, so whatever that ends up being, we're not meant to understand it. You know, you don't explain to a cockroach there's uh why the airplane's in the sky, right?

SPEAKER_00:

We often think we're much more intelligent than we are, much more important to the universe and to God. I I mean, so it's a weird paradigm. It's a weird um, it's not a contradiction, but it it it's something where we often think we're very important, much more important than we are, and we are like the scriptures, the Bible tells us that we're God's children, that we're dearly loved, that he counts the hairs on our head, that he knit us together in our mother's womb, that he knew our days before time began. It says all those things. So we're very important. At the same time, he's gonna accomplish his mission with or without us, right? The universe is gonna go on, whether I'm here right now, his kingdom's gonna go on, it's gonna be built whether I'm here or not. And so oftentimes we'll overestimate our value or our importance, and we're we'll underestimate his value and importance.

SPEAKER_01:

Or significance. So so we think about things just in just broad terms. I I believe things can are infinitely large and infinitely small. I think you can see that repeat in the universe, right? You have suns larger than our solar system. You have uh you know things in our bodies and that we still haven't discovered. Um everything in between, something has created that, and and and you have no we have no idea how big or little it is. And we're not supposed to. Uh and so I think the significance of the word God, however you think about it or however someone defines it, is so farther reaching than we possibly could imagine. We have our part in it. We are a terrarium of some sort. Um it is enjoy what you the the the fact that we're creatures that can at least minuscually understand that there's more to it than that, than than outside of their the, you know, probably say it's like, you know, does a squirrel know there's a moon? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, well, right. And so that I mean, that's one of the important aspects of, you know, you and I, you're coaching people, I'm coaching people, you're at your stage 49, I'm 36. There's so much more than we could ever learn in in 36 lifetimes, 49 lifetimes than we'll ever understand. And so the greatest pursuit that we can have, the greatest journey that we can ever take, in my opinion, is to explore is there a God? And if he is who he says he is, is it the God of the Bible? Who who is it? What does that look like? And then what is our role in that place? And we'll spend so much more time strategizing business and focusing on putting out business problems. Sorry, I've got three dogs and I've got two of them in here with me, and she's freaking out. So if she's if she's interrupting you, I apologize. She's fucked up.

SPEAKER_01:

I I wonder why she you're not gonna like get uh, you know, no one's gonna kick on your door. That would be the worst, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Right, right, right. No, so I I'm totally okay if you are.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm fine with it. I'm just making sure that you're you're you uh you're fine with it.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I am. She does this all the time when I'm on Zoom calls, so I apologize to the podcast and all the listeners. Uh, she's a five-month-old puppy. It's probably like a it's probably Walter Crunkheit dog. She hears me talk, she wants to get involved, is the thing. I think that's what it is. She's trying to talk. So so I I apologize, but I would implore people that there's nothing more important than searching for that purpose and searching for their the reason for their existence rather than you know, focusing so much on politics, focusing so much on, you know, the stresses of this world, focusing so much on our jobs even and all these other problems. That again, if you if you take me out of my um my employer today, if you take me out of my business, like that business, something else will step into that void, right? But if you take me out of my family, if you take me out of the mission that God has me on, that that's a different story.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean, it's it's uh it's where significance matters uh be a little bit. Let's talk about your journey. Uh, you know, go back to whatever you are, but uh talk about how you got to where you know we're sitting here today.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, man. So I don't know how far back you want me to go. Do you want me to go faith-based?

SPEAKER_01:

Leave the open as possible because it is an in generally loaded question, I just correct. But if you'd like to.

SPEAKER_00:

So I coach people at church on how to share 30-second testimony. So I'll do that very quickly. I didn't grow up in a Christian home, uh, grew up with a lot of abuse, a lot of difficulty in my life. Parents divorced at a young age, um, ADHD, kicked out of class, getting in a lot of fights, a lot of issues like that, uh, bitterness, anger, unforgiveness towards certain individuals. And uh, when I was about 18, as you mentioned earlier, we we were talking, I don't know if it was before the podcast or on here, but those different things in my life, those different kingdoms that I had built, whether that was sports, which I had success in, or whether it was scholastics, which I had success in, or whether it was relationships, whatever it was, he allowed all those things to crumble. And so I started searching and I came to know the Lord when I was 18 years old and have committed my life to him. And there's ups and downs and all arounds. But in an instant, when I committed my life to him, he took away the bitterness, he took away the unforgiveness, he took away that anger that I had always felt. And he gave me purpose, he gave me direct direction, he gave me vision, he gave me peace, he gave me joy, things that I hadn't experienced before. And that's continued to lead me. So that's my my testimony from a faith-based side. If you want to go professional, we can go anywhere from there.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I think it's it's I think it's a good place to start. Uh, and I and I think the the less I try to find sometimes lessons for people to listen. Maybe it's obvious and like, why does he say the obvious? I like to say the obvious because sometimes it is the first one you're here. So here it is. Um matter where you are, and I I'm not escaping this myself. Uh you know, I I've said this before, you know, sometimes when you're stuck in a rut, you know, people left you, people right of you above in that rut, can't help you out. Sometimes people kick dirt on you to keep you there. Sometimes the answer to get out is looking up and keep moving forward looking up. And and the truth is, uh for many that you don't realize it until you have to, until it's brought to you. But it's where it what's the saying, so to speak, that's uh God meets you where you are, meets you where you exactly where you need to be. Uh and I think I think sometimes when we look at things like people get cut the tie, line, it's just the belief, like for me, it was like the institution of church still bugs me for the most part. The idea of faith and some of the teachings are you know, it's the book's 2,000 years old, people are still talking about it from at least the Christian side, older for others. There's there's findings in there if you can remove people's agendas from it that are just good principles generally.

SPEAKER_00:

And and listen, hey, hey man, like I don't know if I've shared this with you before, but I come from a Jewish background. Like my dad's whole side of the family is Jewish. I didn't know that like that's even like you know, you've you've made a whole I I was I was terrified to give my life to the Lord because I I I honestly, honest to God, hated Christians prior to coming to know the Lord. And then even when I came to know the Lord, I didn't want to become a Christian, I just wanted to follow Jesus. And so when you talk about the institution, but if we look back, if we look at the Holocaust, Hitler changed the Bible. He changed the Bible, he rewrote the Bible to take out certain parts to make it look like Jewish people were worse than they are. He took out the compassion, he took out the message, he changed it, he altered it, right? If we look at the Spanish Inquisition, you got people that can't read, that don't have the Bible in their language, and there's a king telling them what God is saying. And that's that wasn't even true. If you look at the crusades, same type of thing. People who couldn't read, who were being commanded by kings and fiefdoms, they were being told what to do and what God was saying and what the truth, it was being used as an agenda for power for what other men, human beings wanted. And so if we take all that away and we just look at the book and we pray to God and we build a relationship with Him, which is what He came to do in the first place, was to eradicate and remove all those institutions and make it not at a temple, not through a person, not at a specific time. We can have that relationship anywhere, right? That becomes something totally different. And I had the same exact emotions and feelings. I didn't know if my family was gonna disown me. I didn't know if I was gonna be called the sellout. I didn't know, I didn't know what the results were gonna be.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, wouldn't it have been more like schmuck, like more Yiddish words, would they have like more like Yiddish at you? Sure, right? I I gotta throw humor in on serious things, otherwise I get emotional. I just want you to know that I got to the flux of humans.

SPEAKER_00:

You're fine, you're good.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm in for it. I actually from a ties, you'd be like the metaphor ties we talk about cutting, that's a pretty significant one. The biggest one it's the biggest tie. I don't know what would be bigger, honestly, outside of Well and Jesus teaches that.

SPEAKER_00:

He teaches that. He he's approached at the temple when he's in his hometown and he's sharing the synagogue, and they say, Hey, look, your mother and your brothers are outside. He said, Who are my mother and my brothers and my sisters? They're the ones who don't do the will of God. Jesus said to put your hand to the plow and not to look back, to let the dead bear their own dead. He says in Matthew that um do not suppose that I came to bring peace but the sword to divide father against son, mother against daughter, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law, a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. He came to make a divide, and you have to make a decision. He tells a parable of a man who went out and found a field, and in that field there was a buried treasure, and it was such a secret treasure, it was such an important treasure that he was willing to give up everything he had, even though people thought he was crazy, to go by that field. And that's what it is to give up everything. It's the cost of discipleship to give those things up and to pursue Jesus wholeheartedly. And there's too many people today that think that they can still have the things of this world to follow Jesus. You have to give it up. You have to give up this world, you have to love radically, you have to love your enemies, you have to be the type of person that is willing to do whatever it takes to follow Jesus. And I don't mean in like a weird, radical, violent type of way. I mean in the type of way where you're willing to give up even your own safety, even your own desires, everything of yourself, your own wealth, your own, here I got this dog here, I'll hold on to. But you have to be able to give up all those things in order, in order to follow Jesus. That's that's the call. The fishermen gave up their business. Matthew gave up his tax collecting. All these guys gave up their former agendas in order to follow the Lord.

SPEAKER_01:

And they paid uh also like we talked about the ultimate price for it. Uh, you know, they were all but their work, right? If you think about what they you do, if they had state tax collectors, no one we wouldn't you wouldn't know what their work was or worth was to the world. Right. Now you do to you know, millions of people. You think about that. Like, hey, you're gonna give up your life, it's gonna be horrible. Right. Physical, like, but your eternity, you know, as long as humans are around, I assume.

SPEAKER_00:

Um correct. So for the next 10, 20, 30 years, however long you live, your life might be horrible, but for eternity, you will have a legacy that far outweighs anything you could have ever done on this earth.

SPEAKER_01:

I also think uh some of the things you're describing, right? Let's say you hit it at 80%.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

So let's go with that. Uh that's a lot of impact. Let's say, like, yeah, 28%, you're still you could work on. Yeah. I I is there a I guess maybe it's a question to you from your perspective. Is there room to go from like zero to 40%? Like, hey, I'm about to do that. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_00:

100%. Every day is a journey, man. I mean, so when I talk about that that anger, and let me, I guess I'll pause and clarify. Are you saying like day one you're at zero percent following the Lord? And then it might take a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, maybe most you're gonna get to for whatever reasons, from whatever the interpretations you have, is like, I think I can get 80% of this right. Like, I don't know. Like, like, like I can't give whatever reason I will give up this one thing, but I will be full on as much as I can. I I still I think people I think there's a there's a room because otherwise people won't do it if they feel like they have to be Well, and so so that's that's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_00:

There has to be a cost, and that's called the cost of grace. And then in this book uh that I'm reading, The Cost of Discipleship by Diedrich Bonhoeffer, it has to be costly grace. Jesus Christ gave up his very life. He didn't complain, he never sinned, he never cursed, he didn't sin in his thoughts, his words, or his actions. And he had that cost to the grace that is apportioned to us. And grace is a freely given gift. That's that forgiveness. There's mercy, which is forgiving the punishment, but there's grace, which is the gift that we're given. And so true repentance is a word metanoia. And I just posted this on our page on Facebook this week on Monday. Uh, I was I was reading another book, but metanoia meta, like metaverse, means outside, it means beyond, beyond annoyia, knowledge. So it's beyond yourself. You have to become something new when we repent. So metanoia means repentance. And in English, repentance just means regret. It just means uh, it just means, it just means feeling sorry for something, but metanoia means to become something wholly new. And so when we become followers of Jesus and his spirit dwells in us and we've we've committed to following him, our whole hearts and our whole lives change. The things that we once did that brought us pleasure, whether that was drinking or it was sex or it was something else. And and sex within marriage is holy and it's good, and that can bring us pleasure. But I'm talking about like pursuing uh extramarital affairs or pornography or these other things that that aren't holy, those things actually grieve us. And not to the point where we feel guilt, where we beat ourselves up about it because that's what grace is for, but it calls us to change, right? So, so gluttony, where before we might have been like, hey man, I'll smash a whole pizza and and a six case of beer or a six-pack of beer and I'm eating six cases of beer. Yeah, yeah. Six pack of beer and I'm completely happy. I feel no remorse. I'm excited, like life is good. I'm I'm satiated. And and when you come to know the Lord, it's going, that's not gonna bring me true joy. That's not gonna bring me true peace. What I'm running from is a problem in my marriage. It's a problem in my faith, it's a problem in myself. And so I need to go to the Lord with that. And that's what repentance is is changing towards that direction and leaving our flesh. And so it's a yes, yes, yes, and no, right? Like we're never gonna get that perfectly right. Never. However, that repentance says that 100% of us is desiring to go this way, we're gonna fall short. And we understand we're gonna fall short, however, we don't continue to pursue that. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01:

It does. What uh so it's on your own journey, just so we can uh say credential it, but uh, how do you go from commercial to ministry? Tell me about that little switch. You got you gotta make money. It like there, listen, people, if you don't think you need to make money to get things done in this world, you're you're tricking yourself. You have to make money to support these things you want to do. And and and so, so be very clear on that. That is I uh you need that because uh then you can do something with it. How do you though go from I'm in commercial stuff to to become a ministry?

SPEAKER_00:

So scripture talks about building your your business before you build your home. Okay, so it was very common in biblical times for a man before he got engaged, before he got married, to go build a business, to be a small business owner, to build a craft. And so I've got 18 years of sales experience. I've been a logistics manager, I I've owned a business in commercial insurance for 10 years. So this ministry is funded by my other businesses. I'm not asking people for money to run my ministry. That's something that I'm doing out of love for God and out of a calling that I feel He has for me. That's where the 72 Ministries website comes from. And then the coaching side is monetizing the experience that I have. So I've got over, I've got a very diverse background with 18 years of ministry experience, six as a church elder, three leading men's ministry. And our men's ministry is about 70 guys that come regularly to our breakfast, but that's over a hundred guys that it cycles in and out of. You know, I mentioned business ownership, but 10 years of board service and 15 years leading youth group, which might sound kind of weird that I'm including that, but you have to keep a heartbeat on the culture, right? And so leading youth group, and as as the terms change, as the culture changes, as these things change, it keeps a leader more flexible rather than getting set in a current mindset, a current pattern of belief that, oh, I've already got it figured out. I'm I'm just gonna continue doing what I'm doing. Yes, systems and patterns are important, and and we need to continue to follow what's made us successful, but they can always be tweaked, they can always be improved.

SPEAKER_01:

And I think that's important. You gotta, if you come from wealth, great, whatever, you if you can do something where you have a stable base, uh, it's much harder. You guys get listen, if you're by yourself and you wanted to commit everything to helping others and you're you're okay that you don't have a, you know, you have the minimum you need to survive, eat what you just it's gonna be hard to raise a family on that. So when you have responsibilities, I I put that out as an entrepreneur is as you as you pursue faith, it doesn't have to be all or nothing, but you do need a foundation of of uh uh of a way to support if you're trying to do more like what you're doing. I guess my point being is you've got to be able to balance the stuff that's there now. Believing faith and how you use it is purpose-driven has nothing to do with laying into if you're trying to do more like you're doing, you gotta have some basis fund it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it will and and also I mean, scripture tells us in 1 Timothy 4, like the credentials to be an elder and a leader in the church, if you don't take care of your own household, that then you're not fit to take care of the church. It also says that if you don't take care of your household, not in that section, but a different section, if you don't take care of your own household, you're worse than an unbeliever. Because even an unbeliever does that, right? Just like scripture says, if you don't love your neighbor as yourself who loves you, right? That who doesn't do that? Even your enemy does that. You have to love your enemy as yourself. So, so back to that point of building your business before your home, building your business before your ministry. And don't get me wrong, if somebody's called to be a minister, there are scriptures that Paul talks about of supporting ministers in their journey. And that's part of the importance of tithing and being generous and giving back. At the same time, one of the reasons why I started this ministry is because 72 comes from Luke 10, where Jesus sends out 72 disciples that don't have a name that we're given, they don't have a profession that they're given, they don't have an age that they're given. We don't know anything about them other than Jesus selects them and he sends them. And so these people all had different jobs and they all had different skill sets, and Jesus still sent them. So we're all ministers every day in our work. And that's one of the goals of the ministry is to equip and empower God's people to become wholehearted disciples in their entire life at their work, at their home, to be unified with their mission, to be unified with the direction of their life in every essence, not just on Sunday for one hour, not just when they're with their family praying at the table, but online, when they're talking to other people, when they're having discussions with people, when they're at a family event, when they're at the holidays, all of those times to be unified in that way. And so that's the the YouTube channel was really born out of the sense that Tom, you and I are going to be owning businesses or working for someone else. And if we're doing that, that doesn't leave a ton of time to go out and become a full-time pastor, right? We need to lead in that way in all areas of our lives.

SPEAKER_01:

And and just you know, just conscious the time so people understand kind of what you do. Because I've said this up just from like uh your beliefs and what you're doing. If you've and have listened to it, you don't need to talk about LinkedIn, but your content on LinkedIn's excellent. So those listening, check them out on LinkedIn for sure. Uh because you'll it's really on point. From your coaching standpoint, maybe give me the one critical problem you solve for me for your clients. Like what's the what is the one thing that this is what I do for you?

SPEAKER_00:

I constantly see people out of alignment, right? So I mentioned earlier that there's systems and that's important. I see people that need to become better at sales and filling a pipeline or developing their sales process or developing their sales skill. That's all important. But really, ultimately, most of them are running low on fuel because they're sprinting around towards all these other things, trying to put out so many fires, and they're not focusing on being at peace with God, being at peace with themselves, being at peace in their family, and then out of that flowing, flowing with purpose and direction, right? So helping them to align all those things so that when they show up to work, they can go, okay, that fire, not as important as I think it is. We'll work on that, but that's going over here. This one also really important. We're not going to work on that. We're going to focus on this and then pour into their people, develop their people, empower their people so they can scale their business and they can hopefully they can cut back. Maybe they're working 60 to 80 hours a week right now. What if they could work 40? What if they could work 20? So I wouldn't say it's necessarily one thing, but I do see almost every single one of them is out of alignment or they say one thing that doesn't align with their actions. And so I hope help hold them accountable and structure a plan to do that in faith, in family, in fellowship, with their finances and with their fitness in all of those areas.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I think when I ask, you know, we work with clients, the first thing we get to is what is the critical problem you solve? And you just described truly a critical problem. Likely the symptoms are not why they contact you. Right. So there's an underlying, like that's going to be likely the solution to those around alignment. Maybe give me a handful of so anyone listening, like, hey, here's a few symptoms that usually indicate an alignment with the faith overlay on it to it. Just hard to the in your face, you're listening, no one's judging you, but this is what's going on, probably in your life. What are those?

SPEAKER_00:

They're struggling in their marriage. They're at work way too long, they're feeling burnt out. Uh they're not having the influence with their team that they want. Or, you know, they can say one thing and then their team goes and does another thing. Well, why is that? Um, a lot of different reasons. They feel like they're working, working, working, and they're just reinvent, they're they're reinventing the wheel all the time and they're spinning their wheels. And so those are all different symptoms that they might be out of alignment because a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of business owners are really good at executing or at ideas, but they're not really good at strategizing your vision. And they don't, they don't take enough time to step back and look at the whole picture. And that's where I come in and say, okay, well, why are you really struggling? These are the symptoms that you're dealing with. What is it really that you're trying to accomplish? 50 years from now, will you remember this thing? 50 years from now, will that still be a problem for you? 50 years from now, is that really the biggest deal? If you're divorced, your kids hate you, you know, all these other things that happen, people don't respect you, but your business was successful. What does that even mean? What does that even mean? So let's let's take it back and let's rebuild from the foundation. And sometimes that requires some excavation to rebuild that up the right way. And sometimes another reason why people like to work with me is because I don't really hold back. I'm respectful, I'm compassionate, I'm loving. I'm also a sales guy, a business owner type A. And so I'll I'll poke you. I'll poke you. And that doesn't happen a lot for business owners or sales professionals because growth typically, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Um listen, I'm I'm when I'm trying.

SPEAKER_00:

No, though, I was just gonna say that doesn't happen a lot for those.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it doesn't. I mean, it doesn't, and like when I work with my clients, same thing. It's like, hey, I'm gonna tell you the stuff no one's telling you. And you're like, and I'm okay if you don't like me for it's not my role. I roll up to help you do what we set out to do, which is you know, let's let's get a repeatable system to grow a business. Uh and part of that is like what's holding you back. And just be honest. And like you said, some things might be, you know, even like, hey, I'm fighting with this or I'm spending more time at work. It's like, why? It's the why question. Like it's because I whatever. Um, there's a lot of things that go on behind that. And if you got to get into those things sometimes at a deeper level, and and and this is why I like kind of the faith comp uh I love the faith component because it's oftentimes the answer to get somebody kind of directed in a way that gets them out of some negative spirals, typically not keeping them there, it might be harder, but uh but is a process, and that goes back to your can you go from zero to forty percent, or where is it?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'll tell you what, at 36, I I feel like I know less than I did when I was 30. 100%. Right. I knew what I knew in my 20s, I'd be so smart, right now. Correct. And and at 30, so TI, I used to listen to a lot of rap, but he says the swagger of a college kid, right? Every college kid or high schooler walks around acting like they know everything, right? They they act like they have it all figured out, and now I know I have even less figured out. And by the time I'm 40, 46, 56, 86, I can only expect that that will grow. And so that humility and that understanding of hey, you're a coach that has a coach, I'm a coach, I've got three coaches. I need to listen to those individuals that speak into my life, and then also submit to God and his word and his plan. That as you mentioned, there's so many different verses on business, on finances in the Bible that if we just open it up and read them, it's it's not rocket science.

SPEAKER_01:

It's it's actually a real chat GPD. Like, hey, what's going on? Where's this? It gives you a bunch. It's very good at doing that. Uh yeah. Listen, thank you so much, by the way, uh, Dan, for coming on. Once again, how should someone well, first of all, who should get a hold of you specifically?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, so the type the types of people that should get a hold of me are are gonna be the types of people that again, as we mentioned, they're looking for something more in their life, they're feeling like they're out of alignment, there's something that they're missing, whether it's in their marriage, it's in their business, they're traveling a lot for work, or perhaps they're spending too many hours at work, and they just a lot of people feel very successful in one space, right? They feel very successful at work, and so then that's where they focus. They they drop the ball at home. I'm just gonna ignore that and go to work, and I'm doing really well there. Drop the ball with their kid, I'm just gonna focus on work and continue moving in that vein. So those people that are really feeling out of alignment and know that there's something else out there for them, there's a bigger purpose, and they're just struggling to find out what it is, or two, to stay accountable to what that is.

SPEAKER_01:

That's great. I know. So there's a question I should have asked you today and I didn't. What would that question have been?

SPEAKER_00:

There's a question that you should have asked me today that you didn't. Hmm. You know, you you would ask in in the pre-podcast questions, what am I most thankful for? And I think that gratitude is a significant reason why a lot of people don't succeed or why they feel so much disalignment in their life because they don't they don't have that gratitude. And so I thank God every morning I start with thanking him for three different things. I thank him for his mercy, I thank you for grace, I thank you for salvation, Lord. Those are the things that I thank him for. And then I ask him, what is the next step? What is the next step for my life? And so I know and I truly believe that he lived a perfect life, that he gave himself freely and willingly on the cross and died and rose again, conquering sin and death so that we can all be saved, so that we can have perfect peace, we can have perfect joy, we can have vision and purpose and direction in our life and hope, and so that we can have a relationship with our Father God. So I know I'm I'm not perfect, and and none of us ever can be or will be. We all sin, but each day, as we talked about, is an opportunity to draw closer to Him and an opportunity to pick up our cross, an opportunity to be more compassionate, speak the truth in love, surrender to God. So those are all things that help me lead better in my personal walk, in my marriage, in my business and beyond. And that's why I truly believe I have two thriving businesses and a thriving ministry and a thriving marriage. And and I I couldn't do anything without God. So I'm just very grateful. And I love that question when you posed it in the interview questions.

SPEAKER_01:

Dan, thank you so much for coming on today. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, man. I appreciate you too, brother.

SPEAKER_01:

Listen, everybody who made it this point in the show, you rock. Uh, I do appreciate every uh listener and viewer that we have. And if if you've uh been here before, you've probably say this. And if you haven't, I do hope you you come back to hear me say it again. Get out there, go cut a tie to something holding you back. Um, you know, something in faith, something holding you back from your finances and or your relationships, your health. Pick one, start working at it. You don't have to go zero to a hundred, just chip away at it every day at 1%, and you'll get there. Thanks for listening.